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Rectal Probe Amendment Attached to 'Mandatory Ultrasound' Bill Fails to Pass Virginia Senate | Angry Black Lady Chronicles

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Unwilling to take the affront to women’s reproductive freedom lying down, State Senator Janet Howell attached an amendment to the bill which, in essence, said: “Up Yours!”

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DEATHNELL J.

Forced to insert a vaginal ultra-sound probe? Isn't that a form of RAPE? WTF???

  • 37 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:32 AM EST
Zoolopolis

Turn around is fair play!

If Teanuts can invade privacy of women's bodies, they should have privacy of their rectums invaded!

  • 34 votes
#1.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:50 AM EST
mountainmike-1199289

Rectal probe? Sounds like a good experience for Teapublicans. Janet Howell should be the first one as a role model for others.

A new protest bumper sticker? Up Yours with a close up picture of an anus? I suppose it might cause a few auto accidents.

  • 20 votes
#1.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:17 AM EST
Robert Bartholomew

Damn! I was looking forward to all of that probing!

And just when they were so close to finding Romney's head up there!

  • 26 votes
#1.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:20 AM EST
HappyToSeeYa

Gender equality? For real? GTFOH!

Don't worry, folks. Teathugs are not quite done just yet because they have some other big ideas about debasing people. This rectal probe thingy does not exempt their teathuggery base that continues to support insanity that is definitely not in their best interests.

OTOH, if women can't have contraceptives, then maybe men should not automatically be given access to penile dysfunction medications. Hmmm, tapping foot, maybe this is really about gender equality. Bend over and take it, men. Oh, my bad. Men won't be treated with such disdain after all.

  • 20 votes
#1.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:30 AM EST
Canadian Dave

I always thought rectal probing was only for alien abductions. NOW, I find out that the right wing is absolutely enamored with sticking things up peoples' asses.

  • 12 votes
#1.5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:30 AM EST
whatthetruth52

I thought that the right was against mandates... Oh that is only when they don't like it... if they want to mandate you to do something that is okay....

As usual the hypocritical right is at it again.. putting down the health care mandate because the government should not have the right to make you buy something and yet are forcing women to buy a procedure they don't want or need...

TYPICAL.. This is the way it will be if a republican wins the white house ladies... get out and vote this November.

  • 11 votes
#1.6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST
lib50

I am ready to fight this war on women. If they tried to force an ultrasound on me that probe would be up them so fast their head would spin. It is time to call out the gop lie that they want government out of people's lives.

  • 8 votes
#1.7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:19 PM EST
YaddaYadda

Well, I'm with Senator Howell. If tiny vagina governments are going to be forced upon women, then we should demand that men be subject to tiny anal governments. Let's see how they like it.

I loved this at the end.

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 2:01 PM EST
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Wizeguy

To protest a bill that would require women to undergo an ultrasound before having an abortion, Virginia State Sen. Janet Howell (D-Reston) on Monday attached an amendment that would require men to have a rectal exam and a cardiac stress test before obtaining a prescription for erectile dysfunction medication"

Why not??? They want to get up all in some gals uterus and snap a picture....UP YOURS!!!! I love it!!!.... Even this won't show them how silly stupid they are....

  • 34 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:12 AM EST
Michelle-340891

A woman in Kansas recently put a similar provision in a bill there. It didn't get very far, but I think the point is beginning to be understood by those who want to control women (because that's ALL that this is about, IMO). Barely, but it's a start!!

  • 14 votes
#2.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:24 PM EST
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sushicat

Well, I’m with Senator Howell. If tiny vagina governments are going to be forced upon women, then we should demand that men be subject to tiny anal governments. Let’s see how they like it.

I agree with the above as well. She may be on to something.

  • 24 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:55 AM EST
Emmadadog

My mother was 84 years old in Jan. and even she knows how invasive all these "anti-abortion" bills are. But, she came up with a solution that I think "everyone" should be able to live with.

From the moment of conception, there should be a DNA test on the child and everyone/anyone that could be the father until a match is found. And when the father is found, he should be forced to pay child support, help pay medical bills and any other expenses for that child until the child reaches 18, FROM THE MOMENT OF CONCEPTION!!!!!!!!!!

If they will force the woman to have the child, they should force the father to support the child. To the best of my knowledge, most of the time it still takes 2 to conceive. But, I work nights, so what do I know?

  • 27 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:39 AM EST
FIGHTING FOR RIGHTS

Emmadadog

Your Mother is a very smart Lady. Tell her I said "Happy Birthday". It's nice to see you as always.

  • 12 votes
#4.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:01 AM EST
Emmadadog

I work nights, most of the time, so sometimes, I have a problem with time...................

But, heavy sigh here, I don't have to tell my mother she's smart, she tells me, ummmmmmmmmm at least once a day.

Fighting For Rights, our paths don't seem to cross as much as I'd like, but, we do seem to be on the same path, most of the time, just different paces.

  • 9 votes
#4.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:31 AM EST
FIGHTING FOR RIGHTS

That's what friends are for. The good ones always come back. I still remember the first day we met......I go back there to reread that article once in a while.

  • 3 votes
#4.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:37 AM EST
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buckeyenut-2225921

Do I have to have my butt poked each time I fill my prescription??

  • 8 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:51 AM EST
HappyToSeeYa

LOL!

do you want to have your butt poked each time you fill your prescription?

  • 12 votes
#5.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:36 AM EST
FredC

they are a few others that wanted to pass this bill that NEED their butts poked!! Turn around (and bend over) is fair play!!

  • 9 votes
#5.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:22 AM EST
buckeyenut-2225921

Happy

"do you want to have your butt poked each time you fill your prescription"

I guess that depends on the situation :-)

  • 5 votes
#5.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:48 AM EST
HappyToSeeYa

LOL!

fireworks! bursts of bright lights . . .

. . . TMI

;-D

  • 4 votes
#5.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:19 AM EST
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Libertarian y2k

If they can't outright remove a right, government will try to impede it any way they can. Politicians will tag on conditions and extra laws to at least restrict (or effectively remove) a right if they can't simplydo away with it. They do it all of the time. The right does it here in this example concerning a women's right to an abortion. The left does it as well as exampled with the assorted gun restrictions/conditions they apply. They don't like it but can't stop it; but they will make it quite literally a "pain in the ass" to exercise that right. There are plenty of more examples then this and both the right and the left would restrict our rights a lot more if they could. Good thing we have the Constitution and a SCOTUS.

  • 6 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:26 AM EST
buckeyenut-2225921

but they will make it quite literally a "pain in the ass" to exercise that right.

Nice!

  • 5 votes
#6.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:56 AM EST
FIGHTING FOR RIGHTS

LMAO

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:40 AM EST
Chris-735081

Which one of the following restrictions do you object to:

-Background checks

-Over the age of 18 to purchase a handgun

-No firearms for felons

-No firearms for the mentally ill or developmentally disabled (read: mentally retarded)

Those all sound pretty reasonable to me.

I don't mean to derail anything here, I just keep hearing about how there are so many gun restrictions for getting strapped but in truth it could scarcely be easier.

I just bought a .45 ACP automatic handgun last week, online. Cost about $300 brand, spankin' new.

There are individual state laws that get in the way of carrying them around, but... I thought libertarian types liked the whole state's rights gambit?

  • 5 votes
#6.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:11 PM EST
ShelbyCourtland

-Background checks

Did anyone do a background check on Bernie Madoff?

-Over the age of 18 to purchase a handgun

Game members are usually under the age of 18 and ALL have handgun(s)

-No firearms for felons

Anybody with enough money can purchase a firearm illegally. Well known fact.

-No firearms for the mentally ill or developmentally disabled (read:mentally retarded)

And yet, many homes have firearms and there are many articles about mentally ill people getting firearms and shooting their entire family. Although to be fair, not just the mentally ill are/have been in the news for committing crimes of this nature.

Those all sound pretty reasonable to me.

But the thing is, there are ways of getting around just about anything. People are highly adaptable. And when people are in survival mode, all bets are off. With the present climate, I'd say many are about to go into "survival mode".

    #6.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST
    Chris-735081

    Did anyone do a background check on Bernie Madoff?

    What does that have to do with firearms?

    Game members are usually under the age of 18 and ALL have handgun(s)

    I'll assume you mean "Gang members" and this is not even remotely true. It is easy to get them in the US, but this statement right here is a complete fabrication.

    Anybody with enough money can purchase a firearm illegally. Well known fact.

    So... you're suggesting that it should be legal for felons to own handguns because it is easy to buy them illegally in the United States?

    And yet, many homes have firearms and there are many articles about mentally ill people getting firearms and shooting their entire family. Although to be fair, not just the mentally ill are/have been in the news for committing crimes of this nature.

    I don't think I clearly understand what you are saying here.

    Are you suggesting that the law is meaningless because it can be broken?

    But the thing is, there are ways of getting around just about anything. People are highly adaptable. And when people are in survival mode, all bets are off. With the present climate, I'd say many are about to go into "survival mode".


    Let me get this straight:

    Are you saying that, because laws themselves do not prevent an illegal thing from happening, then that law is useless?

    I apologize if I sound rude or condescending, but that seems like a logical fallacy.

    With the present climate, I'd say many are about to go into "survival mode".

    Maybe so.

    Just to be perfectly clear, what exactly are you getting at?

    LIke, zombie apocalypse survivors or "Screw it. I'm moving to the Nowhere, Montana to live off the land?"

    • 5 votes
    #6.5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:16 PM EST
    Reply
    Lola-984242

    To protest a bill that would require women to undergo an ultrasound before having an abortion, Virginia State Sen. Janet Howell (D-Reston) on Monday attached an amendment that would require men to have a rectal exam and a cardiac stress test before obtaining a prescription for erectile dysfunction medication.

    PRICELESS!!! We need more women like Senator Janet Howell.

    • 26 votes
    Reply#7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:26 AM EST
    littleboyblue

    Yep Lola, just what we need, another man-hating woman in a legislative position.

    Not sure when she comes up for re-election, but the bumper slogans and signs for her opponent will make the front page for sure.

    • 1 vote
    #7.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:49 AM EST
    Tessy

    LBB - Man hating woman in a legislative position??????????? What about all these so-called men in the tea party and the gop - all up in women's uteruses(spelling??) taking away women's rights, their access to birth control. Birth control should be free to all women (and men - condoms). Better to prevent the pregnancy than to abort.

    Y'all just don't get it do you?

    As far as the Viagra is concerned - maybe they should perform a cardiac stress test and do a rectal probe - to make sure everything is up to snuff .

    • 27 votes
    #7.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:55 AM EST
    buckeyenut-2225921

    What about all these so-called men in the tea party and the gop - all up in women's uteruses(spelling??)

    I thought that was always the pizza delivery guy.

    • 1 vote
    #7.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:58 AM EST
    Libertarian y2k

    Freedom to take birth control is a whole lot different then free birth control. In essence you are making people that don't believe in birth control (other then abstaining) pay for birth control. Women should have the right to the pill, morning after and should these fail (or most likely failed to be used in the first place) then a right to an abortion. But no way no how should someone that is opposed to this have to buy it for them. Right there is where you have a lot of the problems and fights. You have the right to have an abortion. You don't have the right to take the money from me to pay for it.

    • 1 vote
    #7.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:43 AM EST
    Tessy

    Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah - better to provide free birth control than abortion.

    • 13 votes
    #7.5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:50 AM EST
    Lola-984242

    I didn't know I could pick and choose what my taxes pay for? I want my taxes to pay for birth control, I DO NOT want my taxes to pay for unjust wars that kill innocent born women and children.

    • 19 votes
    #7.6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:12 AM EST
    Libertarian y2k

    Blah, blah, blah..... better for people to pay for their own or have private organizations and charities provide birth control and abortion. Two wrongs don't make a right.

    I didn't know I could pick and choose what my taxes pay for? I want my taxes to pay for birth control, I DO NOT want my taxes to pay for unjust wars that kill innocent born women and children.

    Well, we can pick and choose. That is why we are fighting in politics :) I don't want my taxes to pay for unjust wars OR abortions. Liberals and conservatives are both right half of the time.

      #7.7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:13 AM EST
      Lola-984242

      I have no problem paying through my taxes for roads that I dont drive on, police i may never need, or airports i may never use. All of which benefits our country as a whole. I don't understand how Americans don't get that concept, but I do see this country turning into a sad state of, "I got mine, fu(k", mentality.

      • 13 votes
      #7.8 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:21 AM EST
      buckeyenut-2225921

      I have no problem paying through my taxes for roads that I dont drive on

      Do you walk everywhere?

      • 1 vote
      #7.9 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:50 AM EST
      FIGHTING FOR RIGHTS

      You do realize that there is no tax tracker. How do you know you are paying for even one birth control pill? Does that mean you are not going to pay your taxes so you don't have to pay for a child that is not yours?

      • 6 votes
      #7.10 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:05 AM EST
      Lola-984242

      Yes buckeyenut I do.

      FIGHTING FOE RIGHTS, I already pay for children that aren't mine, I pay a butt load in property taxes for schools in my area.

      • 8 votes
      #7.11 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:53 AM EST
      ana78041

      OR abortions.

      FYI your taxes don't pay for abortion.

      • 9 votes
      #7.12 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:17 PM EST
      buckeyenut-2225921

      Yes buckeyenut I do

      Ever walk on or across a road?

        #7.13 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:51 PM EST
        Lola-984242

        Nope.

        • 3 votes
        #7.14 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:32 AM EST
        Reply
        Frank Gruden

        The democrats take great delight in anything to do with rectal probes.

          Reply#8 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:56 AM EST
          Tessy

          That's because the republicans/gop/teaparty enjoy it so much!!!!! They deny it but they enjoy it - the rectal probing that is.

          Not that there's anything wrong with that.

          LOL

          • 14 votes
          #8.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:50 AM EST
          Lola-984242

          You got that right Frank, us Democrats want to be all up in your personal reproductive choices, however, we've yet to figure out how to stop those on the right from talking out their asses.

          • 14 votes
          #8.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:14 AM EST
          Michelle-340891

          DNFTFT.

          • 6 votes
          #8.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:35 PM EST
          Reply
          buckeyenut-2225921

          Does anybody know a good butt lube stock to buy?

          • 5 votes
          Reply#9 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:00 AM EST
          TheyreAllCrooks

          Prescription KY Jelly!

          (personally I prefer the strawberry mango scented version)...

          • 3 votes
          #9.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:46 AM EST
          Lola-984242

          ASStroglide!

          • 6 votes
          #9.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 11:57 AM EST
          buckeyenut-2225921

          Lola,

          Very NICE.

            #9.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:48 PM EST
            Reply
            Scott D-552243

            Job's Job's Job's

            • 5 votes
            Reply#10 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:48 AM EST
            ksilvers59

            If you get to probe me then I get to probe you also known as the up yours campaign. Insensitivity and insanity anything except JOBS.

            • 11 votes
            Reply#11 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:02 AM EST
            Fed up with Republicans

            How can the GOP be against Health Care Mandates when they are steadily trying to mandate what women can and can not do with their own bodies.

            A cancerous tumor is a life form also but no body is going crazy trying to stop men or women from cutting them out of their bodies.

            • 12 votes
            Reply#12 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:19 AM EST
            fireryone

            Fed up,

            This:

            How can the GOP be against Health Care Mandates when they are steadily trying to mandate what women can and can not do with their own bodies.

            Is the single best sentence I've seen on this topic. It captures my frustration with these sonogram laws precisely. FR sent!

            • 5 votes
            #12.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:01 PM EST
            Michelle-340891

            Fed up: EXCELLENT comment! I may have to steal that line and use it myself, if it's okay with you....

            • 6 votes
            #12.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:36 PM EST
            Fed up with Republicans

            Sure you can use it.

            I honestly have real difficulty with Republicans and their two faced double standard about mandates.

            They want one set of rules for men and a different set for women.

            The government should have nothing to do with regulating women's reproductive rights

            • 5 votes
            #12.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:30 PM EST
            Reply
            jupmod

            I say this might be a good stragedy for opposing forces against stupid legislation. Simply amend a bill in a way that the supporters of the bill will back off. It had worked in Indiana or Illinois where the GOP wanted drug testing of welfare recipants, yet they backed off when a Democrat amended the bill to include politicians to be tested. Now this lady done the same with anal probes in the bill for vagina probes. Good job! Just give the idiot politicians a taste of their own medicine!

            • 12 votes
            Reply#13 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:20 AM EST
            ScienceGuy-356641

            Republicans were opposed to the amendment out of fear that the procedure would damage their well-hidden heads.

            • 10 votes
            Reply#14 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:31 AM EST
            mike the vet

            S.G. love the post will use it often.

            • 3 votes
            #14.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:10 PM EST
            FIGHTING FOR RIGHTS

            Republicans were opposed to the amendment out of fear that the procedure would damage their well-hidden heads.

            Science guy. Perfect Post!

            • 5 votes
            #14.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:46 PM EST
            Reply
            Mofongo

            From the last paragraph of the article..........

            Well, I’m with Senator Howell. If tiny vagina governments are going to be forced upon women, then we should demand that men be subject to tiny anal governments. Let’s see how they like it.

            Unfortunately, a tiny anal federal government is exactly what the Tea Party wants to shove up the butt of every citizen in this country.

            • 10 votes
            Reply#15 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:45 AM EST
            ol doc gold

            To protest a bill that would require women to undergo an ultrasound before having an abortion, Virginia State Sen. Janet Howell (D-Reston) on Monday attached an amendment that would require men to have a rectal exam and a cardiac stress test before obtaining a prescription for erectile dysfunction medication.

            That is bloody brilliant! Who is this lady and how do I clone her?

            • 12 votes
            Reply#16 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:09 PM EST
            ShelbyCourtland

            If we don't get off our collective behinds and do something constructive to stop this GOP nonsense, we're all going to wake up one day and wonder where the hell did all of our rights go! Everytime you log on, open a newspaper, turn on your tv, another one, two, three, etc., of our rights is being tinkered with.

            I guess when we all wake up in cages, we'll realize that we should have done something more constructive, but by then...it'll be waaaay to late!

            What next? An endoscopy machine set up at the front door of each grocery store to see if your stomach is indeed empty enough for you to purchase food by way of food stamps? For the love of ...!!!! Stop the madness!!!

            • 7 votes
            Reply#17 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM EST
            Sharon J-1312993

            "UP Yours" Is so perfect. Thanks Senator. Now let us make sure we get out and vote to stop this madness. We can not sit at home and hope we end up ok. We must vote and make sure that we get the word out as to how important this next election is.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#18 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:12 PM EST
            Michelle-340891

            Sounds like a good name for the bill, doesn't it?

            The "Up Yours" Bill.

            Has a kind of ring to it. ; )

            • 5 votes
            #18.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:40 PM EST
            Reply
            dpaul

            There are at least two different issues here. One, can Newsvine comments get any lower and less meaningful. Second, it is way past time for a new American Constitution, this one is nearly impossible to add rights to it and too easy to take rights away from it.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#19 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 1:35 PM EST
            seastar

            Kudos to the Senator for highlighting the absurdity of Virginia's Banana Republican politics.

            • 7 votes
            Reply#20 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:08 PM EST
            PJ-780632

            The vote on this amendment was actually 19-21...I WISH she'd been able to swing just two more votes her way. If I lived in VA, she'd definitely get my support!

            • 5 votes
            Reply#21 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:04 PM EST
            TheyreAllCrooks

            Texas is now mandating women to have an ultrasound before an abortion. The doctor MUST read her "a script" telling her about the fetus and what's going to happen EVEN if she doesn't want to hear it!

            I can't wait to see how many doctors sue over this and then the SCOTUS shoots this nonsense down!

            • 2 votes
            Reply#22 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:50 PM EST
            Fed up with Republicans

            But they are saying a woman in Texas has less personal rights and lacks the ability to resist the state when it comes to the state mandating treatments prior to and abortion than a man or woman in another state who doesn't want to get Health Insurance mandated by the government.

            The Republicans and their political party are full of it.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#23 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:47 PM EST
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